What is BMI and ASCAP? This is a popular question that I get asked frequently. It’s bit detailed, so to give a quality answer, it’s going to take more than one post. Hopefully after this series is done, you will have a clear understanding on the function of performing rights organizations, or more commonly called PRO’s.
Like most kids growing up in the middle to late 70’s, I made it point to collect anything related to KISS. I mean, KISS was the Taylor Swift of music back in those days (Ironic that Hard Luck Woman would be covered by Garth Brooks years later). Of course the genre was rock, but comparable in popularity.
I was a fanatic when it came to KISS and every piece of information linked to them, was relevant. I remember reading the vinyl record labels and wondering what those funny acronyms were after the songs. BMI? ASCAP? I thought they were a special club that KISS was a part of. I was eight. What did I know?
ASCAP (American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers) and BMI (Broadcast Music, Inc) are the two largest performing rights organizations in the United States. They are not related to each other (both are separate organizations) but they do perform the same services for the composer, songwriter, author and publisher.
So what do they do? Well, in simple terms PRO’s collect money for your songs, on your behalf. That’s cool. But for what?
Let’s go back to the word perform. Both ASCAP and BMI use this word in a broader sense than is typical. A performance could be radio or internet airplay, a live concert (including night clubs performances by a local act), a song on television or a song you hear in a restaurant. To enhance this point, here is ASCAP’s definition of a performance:
A public performance is one that occurs “in a place open to the public or at any place where a substantial number of persons outside of a normal circle of a family and its social acquaintances is gathered.” A public performance also occurs when the performance is transmitted by means of any device or process (for example, via broadcast, telephone wire, or other means) to the public. In order to perform a copyrighted work publicly, the user must obtain performance rights from the copyright owner or his representative.
Note that PRO’s do not deal with motion pictures. This a different subject which I won’t get into now.
On your behalf, ASCAP or BMI negotiates the license (often referred to as a blanket license) for your songs (think of this as a permit) to various performance mediums, including radio stations, concert venues, television, you name it. Then, they track the performance (remember that word?) based upon their nifty formula (more on this later) and cut you a check for your share.
Just look at it as having your own personal agent (don’t confuse this with a booking agent) looking after the performing rights of your songs and giving you money. Not a bad deal.
“Umm…Hugh — I have a question. When do I join, who do I join, how do I join and (drum roll…) does it cost money?”
All good questions. Here it goes.
- WHEN? You should join a PRO when you have recorded songs ready to be released to the public. PRO’s like to refer to it as being “commercially released.” This can be in a digital format or in a fixed format, such as a CD.
- WHO? Which PRO you join is up to you. There are minimal differences, but they all perform the same function. Which one has a better ring to it?
You can only register with either ASCAP or BMI. You can’t be a member of both. BTW, A BMI member is called an Affiliate. ASCAP members are referred to just that, a member. - HOW? By going to their website and registering. It’s straight forward.
- COST? To register with BMI as a songwriter is free. There is a $35 processing fee with ASCAP. Your call.
“Hugh…one more thing. Aren’t there other PRO’s?”
Oh yeah. I purposely kept this post specific to BMI and ASCAP as those area the two major PRO’s in America. There is another in Nashville known as SESAC and still others that represent artists in their specific geographical territories, which are for the most part, government owned. Examples include PRS (The UK) and BUMA/STEMRA (Netherlands). There are also PRO’s that represent specific genre’s, such as CCLI (Christian Copyright Licensing, Inc.); which represents the Christian music genre.
Let’s summarize
- Performance right’s organizations are commonly known as PRO’s.
- Growing up in the 70’s, I thought KISS was pretty cool.
- ASCAP and BMI are the largest PRO’s in America.
- A performance is broadly interpreted. It could be radio or Internet airplay, a live concert (including night clubs) a song being played on television, or perhaps your wife freaking out on you after she found out you bought a 1959 Sunburst Les Paul. Well, not sure ASCAP or BMI would cover that one.
- PRO’s act as agents for your songs (Not booking agents – this is a different function). They give permission to perform the song by negotiating/issuing a license (often called a blanket license) to the various venues, radio stations, television networks etc.
- PRO’s track the performance of a song through a nifty little formula that decides who get’s what.
- When do you join? When you have a commercial release, such as CD or in digital download format available for the public. Also, if you are performing in registered venues.
- There is not much difference between ASCAP and BMI. It’s your preference who you want to join. They perform the same duties.
- You either join ASCAP or BMI. You can’t be a member of both.
- To join, you go to ASCAP’s or BMI’s website and register.
- Cost to join. BMI is free to songwriters (Publishers are different). ASCAP charges a $35 fee.
- There are PRO’s other than ASCAP and BMI. SESAC is the other US PRO but is considerably smaller in comparison. PRO’s can be found all over the world and represent those in their specific regions. There are also genre-specific PRO’s such as CCLI.







One more try in getting information on this ascap topic! Is it okay for an ascap band to play a club that is not a registered ascap member?
Hi Nancy. It’s ok for an ASCAP band to play a club that is not registered. Ultimately, it’s the club’s responsibility to register. This is per ASCAP’s guidelines. Thanks for stopping by! –Hugh
Are you required to have BMI or ASCAP AND SESAC?
It seems like we’re getting hit left and right for all of these organizations; we want to do the right thing however it’s becoming a BIG expense, to the point where we’re going to do away w/ live music altogether. Can someone offer clarification?
Hi. Thanks for your question, and for stopping by. The answer is this. If you plan on playing songs from artists who are members of different PRO’s, then legally, you will need to obtain a license from each PRO. I know this isn’t exactly what you want to hear and I understand your frustration
However lawsuits do occur from time to time. Last year, Taylor Swift and BMI (along with a list of plaintiffs a mile long), sued a North Idaho bar for not paying license fees. They did it to make an example out of them. –Hugh
Is it necessary to become a member as both a publishing company and a songwriter if I’m going to own my own publishing company solely for my music?
Hi Drew. Thanks for visiting Making It In Music. If you are going to own your own publishing company, regardless if you are the primary songwriter, you will typically want to register as a writer and a publisher. The reason, is that PRO’s pay out to both the publisher and writer, individually to avoid anyone getting ripped off. But that being said…the details are different between ASCAP and BMI. In your case, ASCAP requires you to sign up as a publisher if you want to claim the publisher’s share. However, BMI will pay the publisher’s share to the registered writer, if there is no other publisher listed as being affiliated with the writer. You can still sign up as a publisher, but it’s an extra $150 for sole-proprietorship or $250 if it’s a partnership or corporation. Your call.
Also, don’t forget to register with Sound Exchange as well…the PRO for sound recordings.
Thanks Drew. Hope to see you again, and feel free to drop me a line anytime.
Hugh
why is BMI free and Ascap charge? if they do the same thing, why doesn’t BMI charge (songwriter only). I have been trying to find the answer online with little success. Do you know?
Hi. Thanks for stopping by JGreen. That’s a good question. Although BMI doesn’t charge, they do charge for publishers, and it’s significantly more than what ASCAP charges for the same. It’s just what they choose to do based upon their models. Remember, they are two separate companies and really, one of three in America. The last is SESAC, which is harder to gain membership in, as they are very selective about who they choose. –Hugh
Hello, so ascap fee is $35 to join as a writer, but do they charge you to publish your songs??? If so what do they charge? Thx
Hi Jeff. Thanks for stopping in. ASCAP, or any performing rights organization for that matter, never charge you for publishing your songs. That is not the function of a PRO. ASCAP charges $35 to join, whether you are a writer or a publisher. –Hugh
Hi Hugh,
Questions:
1.) Does a composer need to register works that are music beds for TV, radio, web commercials? In other words with music under voice over?
2.)What about tracks placed in music libraries?
3.) What if you have a commercially released CD that is available in terrestrial as well as on-line stores that has music and voice over in the same track; not just music?
I apologize if you’ve already addressed this and I missed the answers…
Thank you Hugh.
Hello Lincoln. Sorry about getting back to you so late. I must have missed your question!
1. Yes, songwriter’s typically do register these types of works with their PRO. This is assuming that you negotiated a synch license and (if using the original sound recording) a master use license to the party using your work. Now, if you sold the work as a work for hire, or if you gave them exclusive rights to your song in terms of the copyright, then technically, you would no longer own the song. I say this because many contests and other agreements sometimes include a transfer of copyright ownership.
2. If songs placed in music libraries aren’t active — meaning they aren’t being performed in public, on television or radio or released commercially, I wouldn’t worry about registering them to your PRO. You always have time later, if the songs get placed or are included in any type of performance as defined by the PRO. Again, I don’t know about specific agreements you may have in place, so that always plays into it as well.
3. If you have a song or songs on a commercially released CD, then yes, go ahead and register them. Also, remember that you are dealing with the sound recording as well. If that sound recording is yours, then register that with SoundExchange, They specialize in SR’s rather than performances.
Thanks for your questions!
I’m just getting started and I’m not a songwriter, so I play covers. I find that there are a lot of potential venues I might play, but they don’t want to deal with ASCAP/BMI/etc. for licenses.
My question: is there any aspect of being a member that would provide an avenue to self-license my performances and remove that obstacle? I’m just an old guy finger-picking the songs of Guy Clark, Townes Van Zandt, Jesse Winchester, etc. in the corner of a coffee shop, bookstore, or cafe. I’m not trying to play dance halls, bars, etc.
Brett Cammack
Hi Brett. Thanks for reading and your question. Venues are supposed to obtain a blanket license to cover all the music being played — whether it be by a band, a juke box or even a vocalist/guitarist in the corner. As you mention, there are many venues that don’t have them, but most know they should. You are technically responsible for the license, however with the shear amount of artists out there playing covers in unlicensed venues, the chance of any songwriter or PRO coming after you is unlikely. PRO’s know that it’s the venues that are responsible for getting the license and they are more likely to police them, than you.
Hugh, gotta disagree with you a bit.
If songs placed in music libraries aren’t active — meaning they aren’t being performed in public, on television or radio or released commercially, I wouldn’t worry about registering them to your PRO.
You should get everything you have into the PRO database — I prefer to get them posted when I complete the track and am in the process of stashing the file in my “it be done” hard drive. That way the PRO already knows about the track, and you don’t have to remember to get it there when it “becomes active”.
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Regarding ASCAP charging a fee to join — it is $35 when joining online, but soemthing like $75 if you send in the paper copy. [Guess which way they’d prefer join?]
I’d like to point out that for you to join ASCAP as both a writer AND publisher (which is generally a good idea) — it would cost $75 [35 +35}. BMI, however, would charge you $150 [0 + 150].
Just sayin! .… can you tell I’m an ASCAP writer?
Good work on these articles. Well put, and well written. Hope our paths cross again soon!
Hi Tom. Thanks for your response. Refreshing to get someone who disagrees. Keeps it interesting and shares another viewpoint!
I think from an organizational standpoint, what you say does have merit (in terms of going ahead and registering your finished tracks to your PRO right away). If a writer has a substantial library, it can create some work in the long run to register tracks, let alone, remembering to do it! My viewpoint was based upon active vs. inactive libraries. Unless a writer really has something substantial going on with one or more of their songs, income derived from a PRO is unlikely, due to the way PRO’s place weight on payments for performances. Additionally, I do know companies that have been paid out retroactively for unregistered works. However, again, I think that you have a valid point Tom in deciding to immediately register and square everything away, up front, so one doesn’t have to worry about it later!
To respond to your other comment about ASCAP registration fees. Yes. you are correct in that it is a $35 charge for “each” registration — meaning if you register as a publisher and a writer (which you should) — it will cost $70. I didn’t mention the “offline” registration option, which is $75 as you say, only because it’s not near as efficient (just my opinion!).
Thanks for your great points, Tom and the compliment on the articles! –Hugh
First off, I really appreciate all the info you’re taking your time to share. Now my question is when negotiating with a venue on playing my music, is it my job to contact ascap or do I tell them to contact ascap? And what is the process?
Hi Derrick. Thanks for your appreciation of what I do. Copyright law requires that venues acquire all the necessary blanket licenses from the PRO’s. It’s really going to come down on them. Ironically, there are a good majority of clubs and venues that don’t have the necessary blanket licenses and every once in awhile, PRO’s will choose to make an example out of one by bringing legal action. Thanks. –Hugh