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ASCAP_BMI What is BMI and ASCAP?  This is a pop­u­lar ques­tion that I get asked fre­quently. It’s bit detailed, so to give a qual­ity answer, it’s going to take more than one post. Hope­fully after this series is done, you will have a clear under­stand­ing on the func­tion of per­form­ing rights orga­ni­za­tions, or more com­monly called PRO’s.

Like most kids grow­ing up in the mid­dle to late 70’s, I made it point to col­lect any­thing related to KISS. I mean, KISS was the Tay­lor Swift of music back in those days (Ironic that Hard Luck Woman would be cov­ered by Garth Brooks years later). Of course the genre was rock, but com­pa­ra­ble in popularity.

I was a fanatic when it came to KISS and every piece of infor­ma­tion linked to them, was rel­e­vant. I remem­ber read­ing the vinyl record labels and won­der­ing what those funny acronyms were after the songs. BMI? ASCAP? I thought they were a spe­cial club that KISS was a part of. I was eight. What did I know?

ASCAP (Amer­i­can Soci­ety of Com­posers, Authors and Pub­lish­ers) and BMI (Broad­cast Music, Inc) are the two largest per­form­ing rights orga­ni­za­tions in the United States.  They are not related to each other (both are sep­a­rate orga­ni­za­tions) but they do per­form the same ser­vices for the com­poser, song­writer, author and publisher.

So what do they do? Well, in sim­ple terms PRO’s col­lect money for your songs, on your behalf.  That’s cool.  But for what?

Let’s go back to the word per­form. Both ASCAP and BMI use this word in a broader sense than is typ­i­cal.  A per­for­mance could be radio or inter­net air­play, a live con­cert (includ­ing night clubs per­for­mances by a local act), a song on tele­vi­sion or a song you hear in a restau­rant. To enhance this point, here is ASCAP’s def­i­n­i­tion of a performance:

A pub­lic per­for­mance is one that occurs “in a place open to the pub­lic or at any place where a sub­stan­tial num­ber of per­sons out­side of a nor­mal cir­cle of a fam­ily and its social acquain­tances is gath­ered.” A pub­lic per­for­mance also occurs when the per­for­mance is trans­mit­ted by means of any device or process (for exam­ple, via broad­cast, tele­phone wire, or other means) to the pub­lic. In order to per­form a copy­righted work pub­licly, the user must obtain per­for­mance rights from the copy­right owner or his representative.

Note that PRO’s do not deal with motion pic­tures. This a dif­fer­ent sub­ject which I won’t get into now.

On your behalf, ASCAP or BMI nego­ti­ates the license (often referred to as a blan­ket license) for your songs (think of this as a per­mit) to var­i­ous per­for­mance medi­ums, includ­ing radio sta­tions, con­cert venues, tele­vi­sion, you name it.  Then, they track the per­for­mance (remem­ber that word?) based upon their nifty for­mula (more on this later) and cut you a check for your share.

Just look at it as hav­ing your own per­sonal agent (don’t con­fuse this with a book­ing agent) look­ing after the per­form­ing rights of your songs and giv­ing you money. Not a bad deal.

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Umm…Hugh  — I have a ques­tion. When do I join, who do I join, how do I join and (drum roll…) does it cost money?”

All good ques­tions. Here it goes.

  1. WHEN? You should join a PRO when you have recorded songs ready to be released to the pub­lic. PRO’s like to refer to it as being “com­mer­cially released.”  This can be in a dig­i­tal for­mat or in a fixed for­mat, such as a CD.
  2. WHO? Which PRO you join is up to you. There are min­i­mal dif­fer­ences, but they all per­form the same func­tion. Which one has a bet­ter ring to it? :) You can only reg­is­ter with either ASCAP or BMI. You can’t be a mem­ber of both.  BTW, A BMI mem­ber is called an Affil­i­ate. ASCAP mem­bers are referred to just that, a member.
  3. HOW? By going to their web­site and reg­is­ter­ing. It’s straight forward.
  4. COST? To reg­is­ter with BMI as a song­writer is free. There is a $35 pro­cess­ing fee with ASCAP. Your call.
Hugh…one more thing.  Aren’t there other PRO’s?”

Oh yeah. I pur­posely kept this post spe­cific to BMI and ASCAP as those area the two major PRO’s in Amer­ica. There is another in Nashville known as SESAC and still oth­ers that rep­re­sent artists in their spe­cific geo­graph­i­cal ter­ri­to­ries, which are for the most part, gov­ern­ment owned. Exam­ples include PRS (The UK) and BUMA/STEMRA (Nether­lands). There are also PRO’s that rep­re­sent spe­cific genre’s, such as CCLI (Chris­t­ian Copy­right Licens­ing, Inc.); which rep­re­sents the Chris­t­ian music genre.

Let’s sum­ma­rize

  1. Per­for­mance right’s orga­ni­za­tions are com­monly known as PRO’s.
  2. Grow­ing up in the 70’s, I thought KISS was pretty cool.
  3. ASCAP and BMI are the largest PRO’s in America.
  4. A per­for­mance is broadly inter­preted. It could be radio or Inter­net air­play, a live con­cert (includ­ing night clubs) a song being played on tele­vi­sion, or per­haps your wife freak­ing out on you after she found out you bought a 1959 Sun­burst Les Paul. Well, not sure ASCAP or BMI would cover that one.
  5. PRO’s act as agents for your songs (Not book­ing agents – this is a dif­fer­ent func­tion). They give per­mis­sion to per­form the song by negotiating/issuing a license (often called a blan­ket license) to the var­i­ous venues, radio sta­tions, tele­vi­sion net­works etc.
  6. PRO’s track the per­for­mance of a song through a nifty lit­tle for­mula that decides who get’s what.
  7. When do you join? When you have a com­mer­cial release, such as CD or in dig­i­tal down­load for­mat avail­able for the pub­lic. Also, if you are per­form­ing in reg­is­tered venues.
  8. There is not much dif­fer­ence between ASCAP and BMI. It’s your pref­er­ence who you want to join. They per­form the same duties.
  9. You either join ASCAP or BMI. You can’t be a mem­ber of both.
  10. To join, you go to ASCAP’s or BMI’s web­site and register.
  11. Cost to join.  BMI is free to song­writ­ers (Pub­lish­ers are dif­fer­ent). ASCAP charges a $35 fee.
  12. There are PRO’s other than ASCAP and BMI. SESAC is the other US PRO but is con­sid­er­ably smaller in com­par­i­son. PRO’s can be found all over the world and rep­re­sent those in their spe­cific regions. There are also genre-specific PRO’s such as CCLI.

      
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  • Reply » Nancy Chalmers August 23, 2010

    One more try in get­ting infor­ma­tion on this ascap topic! Is it okay for an ascap band to play a club that is not a reg­is­tered ascap member?

    • Hugh Hession August 23, 2010

      Hi Nancy. It’s ok for an ASCAP band to play a club that is not reg­is­tered. Ulti­mately, it’s the club’s respon­si­bil­ity to reg­is­ter. This is per ASCAP’s guide­lines. Thanks for stop­ping by! –Hugh

  • Reply » BRBistro September 7, 2010

    Are you required to have BMI or ASCAP AND SESAC?
    It seems like we’re get­ting hit left and right for all of these orga­ni­za­tions; we want to do the right thing how­ever it’s becom­ing a BIG expense, to the point where we’re going to do away w/ live music alto­gether. Can some­one offer clarification?

    • Hugh Hession September 9, 2010

      Hi. Thanks for your ques­tion, and for stop­ping by. The answer is this. If you plan on play­ing songs from artists who are mem­bers of dif­fer­ent PRO’s, then legally, you will need to obtain a license from each PRO. I know this isn’t exactly what you want to hear and I under­stand your frus­tra­tion :( How­ever law­suits do occur from time to time. Last year, Tay­lor Swift and BMI (along with a list of plain­tiffs a mile long), sued a North Idaho bar for not pay­ing license fees. They did it to make an exam­ple out of them. –Hugh

  • Reply » Drew Wagner April 5, 2011

    Is it nec­es­sary to become a mem­ber as both a pub­lish­ing com­pany and a song­writer if I’m going to own my own pub­lish­ing com­pany solely for my music?

    • Hugh Hession April 7, 2011

      Hi Drew. Thanks for vis­it­ing Mak­ing It In Music. If you are going to own your own pub­lish­ing com­pany, regard­less if you are the pri­mary song­writer, you will typ­i­cally want to reg­is­ter as a writer and a pub­lisher. The rea­son, is that PRO’s pay out to both the pub­lisher and writer, indi­vid­u­ally to avoid any­one get­ting ripped off. But that being said…the details are dif­fer­ent between ASCAP and BMI. In your case, ASCAP requires you to sign up as a pub­lisher if you want to claim the publisher’s share. How­ever, BMI will pay the publisher’s share to the reg­is­tered writer, if there is no other pub­lisher listed as being affil­i­ated with the writer. You can still sign up as a pub­lisher, but it’s an extra $150 for sole-proprietorship or $250 if it’s a part­ner­ship or cor­po­ra­tion. Your call.

      Also, don’t for­get to reg­is­ter with Sound Exchange as well…the PRO for sound recordings.

      Thanks Drew. Hope to see you again, and feel free to drop me a line any­time.
      Hugh

  • Reply » JGreen August 12, 2011

    why is BMI free and Ascap charge? if they do the same thing, why doesn’t BMI charge (song­writer only). I have been try­ing to find the answer online with lit­tle suc­cess. Do you know?

    • Hugh Hession August 15, 2011

      Hi. Thanks for stop­ping by JGreen. That’s a good ques­tion. Although BMI doesn’t charge, they do charge for pub­lish­ers, and it’s sig­nif­i­cantly more than what ASCAP charges for the same. It’s just what they choose to do based upon their mod­els. Remem­ber, they are two sep­a­rate com­pa­nies and really, one of three in Amer­ica. The last is SESAC, which is harder to gain mem­ber­ship in, as they are very selec­tive about who they choose. –Hugh

  • Reply » Jeff September 3, 2011

    Hello, so ascap fee is $35 to join as a writer, but do they charge you to pub­lish your songs??? If so what do they charge? Thx

    • Hugh Hession September 6, 2011

      Hi Jeff. Thanks for stop­ping in. ASCAP, or any per­form­ing rights orga­ni­za­tion for that mat­ter, never charge you for pub­lish­ing your songs. That is not the func­tion of a PRO. ASCAP charges $35 to join, whether you are a writer or a pub­lisher. –Hugh

  • Reply » Lincoln November 14, 2011

    Hi Hugh,

    Ques­tions:
    1.) Does a com­poser need to reg­is­ter works that are music beds for TV, radio, web com­mer­cials? In other words with music under voice over?

    2.)What about tracks placed in music libraries?

    3.) What if you have a com­mer­cially released CD that is avail­able in ter­res­trial as well as on-line stores that has music and voice over in the same track; not just music?

    I apol­o­gize if you’ve already addressed this and I missed the answers…
    Thank you Hugh.

    • Hugh Hession December 9, 2011

      Hello Lin­coln. Sorry about get­ting back to you so late. I must have missed your question!

      1. Yes, songwriter’s typ­i­cally do reg­is­ter these types of works with their PRO. This is assum­ing that you nego­ti­ated a synch license and (if using the orig­i­nal sound record­ing) a mas­ter use license to the party using your work. Now, if you sold the work as a work for hire, or if you gave them exclu­sive rights to your song in terms of the copy­right, then tech­ni­cally, you would no longer own the song. I say this because many con­tests and other agree­ments some­times include a trans­fer of copy­right ownership.

      2. If songs placed in music libraries aren’t active — mean­ing they aren’t being per­formed in pub­lic, on tele­vi­sion or radio or released com­mer­cially, I wouldn’t worry about reg­is­ter­ing them to your PRO. You always have time later, if the songs get placed or are included in any type of per­for­mance as defined by the PRO. Again, I don’t know about spe­cific agree­ments you may have in place, so that always plays into it as well.

      3. If you have a song or songs on a com­mer­cially released CD, then yes, go ahead and reg­is­ter them. Also, remem­ber that you are deal­ing with the sound record­ing as well. If that sound record­ing is yours, then reg­is­ter that with SoundEx­change, They spe­cial­ize in SR’s rather than performances.

      Thanks for your questions!

  • Reply » Brett Cammack December 9, 2011

    I’m just get­ting started and I’m not a song­writer, so I play cov­ers. I find that there are a lot of poten­tial venues I might play, but they don’t want to deal with ASCAP/BMI/etc. for licenses.

    My ques­tion: is there any aspect of being a mem­ber that would pro­vide an avenue to self-license my per­for­mances and remove that obsta­cle? I’m just an old guy finger-picking the songs of Guy Clark, Townes Van Zandt, Jesse Win­ches­ter, etc. in the cor­ner of a cof­fee shop, book­store, or cafe. I’m not try­ing to play dance halls, bars, etc.

    Brett Cam­mack

    • Hugh Hession December 9, 2011

      Hi Brett. Thanks for read­ing and your ques­tion. Venues are sup­posed to obtain a blan­ket license to cover all the music being played — whether it be by a band, a juke box or even a vocalist/guitarist in the cor­ner. As you men­tion, there are many venues that don’t have them, but most know they should. You are tech­ni­cally respon­si­ble for the license, how­ever with the shear amount of artists out there play­ing cov­ers in unli­censed venues, the chance of any song­writer or PRO com­ing after you is unlikely. PRO’s know that it’s the venues that are respon­si­ble for get­ting the license and they are more likely to police them, than you.

  • Reply » Tom Rule December 21, 2011

    Hugh, gotta dis­agree with you a bit.

    If songs placed in music libraries aren’t active — mean­ing they aren’t being per­formed in pub­lic, on tele­vi­sion or radio or released com­mer­cially, I wouldn’t worry about reg­is­ter­ing them to your PRO.

    You should get every­thing you have into the PRO data­base — I pre­fer to get them posted when I com­plete the track and am in the process of stash­ing the file in my “it be done” hard drive. That way the PRO already knows about the track, and you don’t have to remem­ber to get it there when it “becomes active”.

    Regard­ing ASCAP charg­ing a fee to join — it is $35 when join­ing online, but soemthing like $75 if you send in the paper copy. [Guess which way they’d pre­fer join?]

    I’d like to point out that for you to join ASCAP as both a writer AND pub­lisher (which is gen­er­ally a good idea) — it would cost $75 [35 +35}. BMI, how­ever, would charge you $150 [0 + 150].

    Just sayin! .… can you tell I’m an ASCAP writer?

    Good work on these arti­cles. Well put, and well writ­ten. Hope our paths cross again soon!

    • Hugh Hession December 22, 2011

      Hi Tom. Thanks for your response. Refresh­ing to get some­one who dis­agrees. Keeps it inter­est­ing and shares another viewpoint!

      I think from an orga­ni­za­tional stand­point, what you say does have merit (in terms of going ahead and reg­is­ter­ing your fin­ished tracks to your PRO right away). If a writer has a sub­stan­tial library, it can cre­ate some work in the long run to reg­is­ter tracks, let alone, remem­ber­ing to do it! My view­point was based upon active vs. inac­tive libraries. Unless a writer really has some­thing sub­stan­tial going on with one or more of their songs, income derived from a PRO is unlikely, due to the way PRO’s place weight on pay­ments for per­for­mances. Addi­tion­ally, I do know com­pa­nies that have been paid out retroac­tively for unreg­is­tered works. How­ever, again, I think that you have a valid point Tom in decid­ing to imme­di­ately reg­is­ter and square every­thing away, up front, so one doesn’t have to worry about it later!

      To respond to your other com­ment about ASCAP reg­is­tra­tion fees. Yes. you are cor­rect in that it is a $35 charge for “each” reg­is­tra­tion — mean­ing if you reg­is­ter as a pub­lisher and a writer (which you should) — it will cost $70. I didn’t men­tion the “offline” reg­is­tra­tion option, which is $75 as you say, only because it’s not near as effi­cient (just my opinion!).

      Thanks for your great points, Tom and the com­pli­ment on the arti­cles! –Hugh

  • Reply » Derrick Walker January 7, 2012

    First off, I really appre­ci­ate all the info you’re tak­ing your time to share. Now my ques­tion is when nego­ti­at­ing with a venue on play­ing my music, is it my job to con­tact ascap or do I tell them to con­tact ascap? And what is the process?

    • Hugh Hession January 10, 2012

      Hi Der­rick. Thanks for your appre­ci­a­tion of what I do. Copy­right law requires that venues acquire all the nec­es­sary blan­ket licenses from the PRO’s. It’s really going to come down on them. Iron­i­cally, there are a good major­ity of clubs and venues that don’t have the nec­es­sary blan­ket licenses and every once in awhile, PRO’s will choose to make an exam­ple out of one by bring­ing legal action. Thanks. –Hugh

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